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Newer canoes and kayaks often have a sticker placed next to the HIN that gives the vessel's serial. Is a 12-digit serial number that uniquely identifies a vessel. Grumman 17' Canoe I am trying to find out information about a 'whale back' Grumman Canoe. I'm attaching photos. Two ID plates on the boat. Grumman Boats 2525-GB-S-17 oval shaped and Capacity plate Model G-17S Serial 2525. Also stamped into the bow are the numbers: over 5 (see photo). Any information would be Great.
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How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 12:17 pm
So, for the 5th time in 2 years, a total stranger has knocked on my door asking if I want to sell my grandfather's Grumman. I do not.
However, although I know it was produced some time in the early to mid sixties, I don't know the exact year. It's a 17' aluminum Grumman 'ganoe' (though the internet doesn't seem to know what that word means ) from the 60's. The Grumman stickers on the front are painted over (duck camp boat) and there are no serial numbers that I can find.
My grandmother swears they had that boat at least in 1962 when they built their house in Lafayette, and my grandfather was a pilot, so it might be a lot older than that.
Any ideas on pinpointing the year?
However, although I know it was produced some time in the early to mid sixties, I don't know the exact year. It's a 17' aluminum Grumman 'ganoe' (though the internet doesn't seem to know what that word means ) from the 60's. The Grumman stickers on the front are painted over (duck camp boat) and there are no serial numbers that I can find.
My grandmother swears they had that boat at least in 1962 when they built their house in Lafayette, and my grandfather was a pilot, so it might be a lot older than that.
Any ideas on pinpointing the year?
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by W on 8/10/13 at 12:29 pm to blueboy
I don't know the answer to your question.
I do know that you need to hide/secure your canoe.
Soon someone won't ask, they'll just take it.
I do know that you need to hide/secure your canoe.
Soon someone won't ask, they'll just take it.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by xenon16 on 8/10/13 at 12:33 pm to W
Without any identifying information (or pics) this will be pretty impossible.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 12:40 pm to W
Oh I know. It's chained to the wall in my garage. They'd have to destroy it to steal it. For people who know what it is, they'd never do it. For everyone else, it's just an old canoe. Good luck.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Ole Geauxt on 8/10/13 at 12:43 pm to blueboy
Only thing I can think of is to just go by some yak places, look for old timers, or guys that seem to know and appreciate yak history, strike up convo and see if u can get some consistent ideas?
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 1:14 pm to Ole Geauxt
quote:I don't know what that means.
some yak places
I'll try to get some pics when it stops raining.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 2:49 pm to xenon16
quote:Okay, now my problem is that I've found the ID plate, but it's painted over. What's the best way to take the paint off without damaging the info on the plate, which should look something like this.
Without any identifying information (or pics) this will be pretty impossible.
I know it's a 17' Grumman Sport Boat, but the serial number will probably give me a good ball park estimate as to the year.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Ole Geauxt on 8/10/13 at 3:16 pm to blueboy
Yak places,,,, meaning boat shops, canoe places,,,,, places that sells frickin yaks..
Eta: I apologize for saying yak,, there is usually so much on here about yaks, it's stuck in my head...
Go by boat places, outdoor sports stores,, any place that sells CANOES, Find an old timer and pick his brain,, maybe show him a pic, ya know?
Good luck,, I have everything of my grandfathers I can store..
Eta: I apologize for saying yak,, there is usually so much on here about yaks, it's stuck in my head...
Go by boat places, outdoor sports stores,, any place that sells CANOES, Find an old timer and pick his brain,, maybe show him a pic, ya know?
Good luck,, I have everything of my grandfathers I can store..
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by just1dawg on 8/10/13 at 3:33 pm to Ole Geauxt
I don't know how old my parents' Old Town Tripper is, either. Even though they bought it in the 1970s they can't remember the year.
Edit: It was one of the first ABS (now called Royalex) canoes that really caused Grumman's aluminum canoes to drop in popularity because they had slipperier bottoms, floated when swamped, and didn't crunch quite as easily when hitting a stob in the water.
Edit: It was one of the first ABS (now called Royalex) canoes that really caused Grumman's aluminum canoes to drop in popularity because they had slipperier bottoms, floated when swamped, and didn't crunch quite as easily when hitting a stob in the water.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 4:01 pm to Ole Geauxt
Thanks for being mad, but I think I just need to take the paint off of the ID plate without erasing what's stamped on it.
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by xenon16 on 8/10/13 at 4:23 pm to blueboy
Try oven cleaner, but read the label first. Some of them can do harm to aluminum. Which is likely what that plate is made out of. Also, watch your overspray
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Ole Geauxt on 8/10/13 at 4:25 pm to blueboy
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by blueboy on 8/10/13 at 4:32 pm to just1dawg
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quote:and no keel, which is what mine was designed for, sail and outboard. Keep it.
had slipperier bottoms
quote:Never been swamped since I've been alive, and not likely before either.
floated when swamped
quote:No, this one is made from aircraft aluminum and is riveted together like an airplane. It doesn't 'crunch' for shit, and it has been through many wacky adventures. I don't know what they were making in the 70's and 80's, but this one is quite indestructible.
and didn't crunch quite as easily when hitting a stob in the water
Now, to get the fricking paint off.....
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by xenon16 on 8/10/13 at 4:37 pm to blueboy
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Now, to get the fricking paint off.....
I don't think he was 'mad' bro, especially when he doesn't even know the model, year or what the thing even looks like. You come hear with an attitude that is not welcomed. If you read above, we have tried to help
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by tigers win2 on 8/10/13 at 4:37 pm to blueboy
Try reading/posting questions here
This guy maybe able to help if you can contact him he goes by 'Grumman Historian' and he's building a database of the models
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This guy maybe able to help if you can contact him he goes by 'Grumman Historian' and he's building a database of the models
LINK
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Ole Geauxt on 8/10/13 at 4:51 pm to xenon16
Z, did he say I was mad or somebody else??
He responded to me,, but I didn't know I was mad?
He responded to me,, but I didn't know I was mad?
re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Nodust on 8/10/13 at 4:53 pm to Ole Geauxt
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Ole Geauxt on 8/10/13 at 4:56 pm to Nodust
I've had my laxatives, vacuumed sand out of vajiney, got on clean Depends,,, I've been a gentleman, huh?
re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by Nodust on 8/10/13 at 4:58 pm to Ole Geauxt
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re: How can I determine the year in which my canoe was made?Posted by just1dawg on 8/10/13 at 5:21 pm to blueboy
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and no keel, which is what mine was designed for, sail and outboard. Keep it.
Different strokes for different folks. There was a time when people wanted mild whitewater-capable canoes that could carry a load to go canoe camping in and had no choice except wood, wood & canvas, or aluminum. That's certainly changed. No question that yours is a classic design, though, just like ours.
quote:
Never been swamped since I've been alive, and not likely before either.
You're missing out. Even on the lake, which is not the Tripper's forte (turning it into the wind when you're soloing it is hard work), it was fun to play with it, trying to to board it while swamped, then bail, and realize just how much mass it had when filled with water. I was glad it wouldn't sink!
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Now, to get the fricking paint off.....
On our canoe that's not a problem because the number is stamped directly into the Royalex. It'd take a lot of coats of paint to cover it up.
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